list price for rolex submariner 116613

even though the newly launched rolex submariner in gold and stainless steel has yet to arrive in singapore ....... it's good to know that the list price is S$14,256.... only slightly higher than the rolex gmt master 2 116713 (S$14,171)....

a likely scenario is the first few pieces might be selling at a small premium or very close to list price...... it's just my gut sense.... cos the AD that i talked to did not wanna commit ...

we'll see...

it's a matter of timing...

in life, we all need to make choices.... 

many a time, our choices are dictated by many factors.... and one of those is a matter of timing...... how so you may ask....

well, recently a colleague wants to buy a new rolex submariner 16610lv..... the iconic green bezel diving watch...... and guess what, my favourite store is out of stock.....

i remember a few months ago, supply was not only plentiful but it also was offered with a never-heard-of discount....

but now? not only no stock and perhaps even no discount.....

so much about choosing the right moment...... 

rolex submariner 116618 and 116619 list prices

since white gold is more expensive than yellow gold, the still-quite-new rolex submariner in white gold also retails for a higher price than its yellow gold brother....

116619 rolex submariner in white gold.. S$40,840

116618 rolex submariner in yellow gold (blue/black bezel).. S$37,318

happy shopping..!!

is there a v serial sea-dweller 16600?

is there or is there not one...??? some ppl said no........ they were so sure about it........... "no no no"...... they said since the 16600 was discontinued, m serial is the last of the last............

one thing i learnt in life is never to be so cock sure........... one cannot simply know everything on earth......... keep our eyes and ears open, no matter what........

well for pictorial evidence, i saw this:

although there were people who believed this picture was photoshopped, what do u think?

and over at timezone.com, CharlesN mentioned that a last batch of v serial 16600 will be delivered to the UK.... seems to be for only the UK......

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=4126043&rid=18872#msg_4126043

so will there be or not??? judge for youself.....

rolex crown...... as in winding crown

it's common knowledge that there are three dots on a rolex triplock crown.............. whereas two dots or a dash for a twinlock crown.......

however, not everyone knows that the central dot is larger for a white gold triplock crown as shown on the rolex white gold submariner (pic below) ....



maybe it's an intentional move by rolex ........ to enable their technicians to differentiate the materials of the winding crown with ease.......... stainless steel, white gold and platinum do look very similar ............

while a person can obviously tell the difference in weight between a platinum and steel watch easily, the size and mass of a small winding crown can be a liability in this case.......... a person cannot be depended to judge the difference between 2 items of very similar weight.......

like the deepsea, the new range of submariners come with the brilliant glide-lock oyster bracelet.............. simply breathtaking in its concept, design and operation.............. i dare to say rolex has completed wiped out the competition with this new bracelet............



photos copyright of rolex enthusiast

what if? how about a breitling WOLF WOLF....?

indeed the rolex sea-dweller deepsea is impressive.......... however it's also significantly MUCH more expensive than the out-going sea-dweller......... compare the list prices of the 2........ S$8751 vs S$12668!!!!!!!!

what if you want a diving watch that is rated to close to what the deepsea can do....... but for less less money......

how about 3000 m........... ? which is about 900 m less than what the deepsea can boast of..... far too close for approximately half the money..............

you have a choice.......... between 2 breitling WOLVES............. one is the avenger airwolf......... the other the avenger seawolf............ in fact, they are largely similar in most respects.....

so do u prefer a all arabic numerals dial........... or the one below.......??



although visually and physically VERY CHUNKY, i think they are manageable bcos of the lightweight titanium watch case..............

hello? a deep sea?

well well if you received a message from an AD with a good deal for a rolex sea-dweller deepsea.... what do you do?

do you tell him, NOPE.............. or do you say, HOLD IT FOR ME!!!!

i guess if u like the watch, you would grab it immediately ........... a good deal is a good deal

let's see..... i am still thinking about it.....

a true collector

was going through my HDD and came across this old pic......

this is what i call a TRUE collection ..........haha ............ SIMPLE AWESOME....

hmmmm with this, the problem becomes "which one should i wear today???"

feels like home....

i have good feelings about the new submariner........

with a maxidial and cerachrom bezel, i am sure it will fly off the shelves........ the supercase will of cos do the watch no harm, other than making it stronger and more musculine.......

can i have one please.???.......... in white gold.... :)

where are you going...????

with the introduction of the new submariner in yellow gold and white gold, what kinda fate awaits the submariner 16610 LV aka green bezel.......????

as usual, only time will tell cos we have no idea what rolex will do in the coming months and years.......

released to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the submariner, the LV has gained a cult following for all these years........

well i like it..... do you?

rolex series 1: how to tell if it's a "folex"

a folex = fake rolex.... and in the coming days and weeks, i will try to document my knowledge to help newbies distinguish the features of a rolex and a folex.....:)

one of the most popular rolex watches is the submariner, the iconic dive watch that almost everyone else attempts or have attempted to copy........ therefore we will limit ourselves to this classic model that have defined what a dive watch is all about....

there are 3 versions of the stainless steel submariner, namely:

• rolex submariner 14060M aka non-date submariner (list price S$6447)
  
• rolex submariner 16610 aka submariner date (list price S$7444)
  
• rolex submariner 16610LV aka green submariner (list price S$7976) .....pls see previous posting for pictures and more...

so here we go........important features to look out for:

• 1
• there are 120 clicks per complete 360-degree revolution of a real rolex sub bezel........... however this feature alone shd not be used to judge whether the watch is authentic or not...... some folex could be pretty well-made and the bezels do have 120 clicks........ the clicks should be firm and smooth..... it should also turn with more ease when u press it down and turn
• 2
• for the 16610 and LV.... the cyclops magnify the date 2.5 times..... this is a common fault of folex watches and most have yet to perfect the magnification..... the date should sit right in the middle of the window and i mean exactly in the middle, not abit left or right or up or down.....
• 3
• as the text on a rolex watch dial is laser-etched, you can easily judge the quality by looking closely at the edges of the text, especially the coronet at 12 o'clock....... it shd be very well defined, even with a 10x loupe....
• 4
• the luminova should be flat and has a uniform glow.... it shd appear more whitish than green..... check the lume by exposing the dial to a light source and then observe in the shade.... all the luminova on the hour markers and hands must glow...
• 5
• the hour marker surround for the ss submariner is made of white gold...... check the shape, it should be complete and perfectly circular.....
• 6
• the 14060M is equipped with a rolex 3130 movement while the 16610 and LV uses the 3135 movement...... they are fundamentally similar, the only difference is the date complication in the 3135........ to see the movement, you need to use a proper tool to unscrew the ss case back
• 7
• modern rolex movements beat at 28,800 beats per hour and the sweep of the second hand is very smooth....... there are folex watches that uses el cheapo slow beat movements, so u can probably see that the sweep is not as smooth and exhibits some jerk.....
• 8
• however, it's not uncommon for folex watches to use swiss eta or china-made eta clones that also beat at 28,800 bph......... be very careful....
• 9
• all rolex submariner watches has a triplock crown.......it is physically larger than the crowns for the oyster datejust watches (which has a twinlock crown)........... how to tell whether it's a triplock??.......... well, look at the crown and you will see 3 dots below the coronet.........
• 10
• for a triplock crown, u will also see a black rubber o-ring on the crown tube when you unscrew the crown..... the o-ring is functional and you will be able to feel the crown compressing this ring when you screw the crown in.......... this is one feature that provides additional water resistance to 300m or 1000ft....
• 11
• to wind the movement, u have to turn the crown clockwise after you unscrew the crown...... do u find a slight resistance as compared to the feel when you turn the crown CCW..??
• 12
• to adjust the hands forward, you have to turn the crown clockwise in the last position..... this is also a feature to ascertain the watch as some fake movements advance the time by turning the crown CCW.....
• 13
• gently shake the watch..... can you hear or feel any wobble??...... the rotor of a rolex submariner watch pivots on a jewelled bearing and is totally silent.... you shd not hear anything..... or feel anything.....
• 14
• there is no engraving or text on the case back of a rolex submariner....
• 15
• the 14060M comes with a non-SEL bracelet while the other 2 models come with SEL....
• 16
• rolex submariner watches do not come with clear caseback.... genuine rolex watches come with a green hologram sticker ...... the model number is printed on the hologram and it will wear off when the watch is worn...
• 17
• there is a minute coronet that is laser-etched onto the sapphire crystal of a genuine rolex watch at the 6 o'clock position....... it's quite faint and difficult to pick up with the naked eye...... however, u can still see it clearly if the angle and lighting are right....
• 18
• all the 3 ss rolex submariner watches come with the oyster bracelet and the middle links are hollow...... if u see solid middle links on a ss submariner, it's a fake......
• 19
• both the 16610 and LV comes with a quick dive suit extension link....... from the inside of the clasp, u can see a small 'O' on one of links....... press it firmly and the link will pop out...... the 14060M has a different type of extension link.....
• 20
• for late-model 16610 and LV, the watches come with a one piece SEL. watches using this SEL will not have any bracelet number engraved on SEL links.....
• 21
• for late-model 16610 and LV, there are no holes on the side of the watch case. if you remove the bracelet, u will be able to see 16610T on the case at the 6 o'clock position........ t stands for "no-hole case"....... the 14060M still has holes on the case....
• 22
• the pearl on the bezel will glow .....
• 23
• the watch serial number is laser-etched on the case at 12 o'clock position.......it is very clear, obvious and well-defined....

haha overall very lengthy but still not 100% exhaustive.....but i hope this is helpful

a pictorial: rolex submariner 16610LV

first launched in 2003, the green bezel submariner was introduced to commemorate the 50th year of the rolex submariner....


so what is the difference between this and the black bezel submariner (16610)...???


well......the most obvious is of cos the green bezel.......

other differences are:

bigger hour markers (also called a maxi-dial)

a wider minute hand

list price of the watch is S$7976....... but it is usually sold at a premium in authorised dealers (AD).....so what is the market price? well about S$9000.....

so is it worth the extra over the black submariner (S$7444)? well, only you can answer that....:)

heard that when it was first launched, ADs were making big bucks selling this at prices near S$11k....!! ouch ouch ouch!..... this was partially fuelled by the rumour that this was a limited production, but alas.... turned out the lv is a regular production model...... so when the demand waned, prices also tumbled..... it's a sad thing if you paid more than S$10k for this watch but then there's a price to pay for being the first few to own it right haha.....

some ppl have reported that in europe and usa, there are dealers giving discounts for the lv..... it's still not happening in singapore.... i wonder when will it happen....... will the new ss gmt master 2 (116710) usurp the position of the lv..???...... let's see if that happens...

FYI... the new rolex airking, rolex oyster perpetual and rolex oyster perpetual date are in the stores .....all are now certified chronometers, come with new case, new dials, new bracelets (all brushed....WOOHOO!!).....